Joana Sá – A Body as Listening (Clean Feed)

Joana Sá – A Body as Listening (Clean Feed)

JOANA SÁ

A Body as Listening (Clean Feed)

28

Diciembe, 2024

El retorno en solitario de la consagrada pianista portuguesa Joana Sá ha tardado once años en llegar (desde el ya lejano Elogio da Desordem, de 2013), y no sólo cierra una trilogía comenzada con Through this Looking Glass (2010); sino que se trata, además, del proyecto más ambicioso y personal dentro de la extensísima y polifacética carrera de la siempre sorprendente creadora lusa.

Artista escurridiza e inquieta donde las haya, Joana Sá lleva ya muchos años transitando terrenos creativos alejados de lo convencional, con espíritu multidisciplinar y embarcada en una búsqueda continua de interacciones entre disciplinas estéticas que abarcan la experimentación audiovisual y la sinergia entre diferentes artistas del terreno del arte contemporáneo y la música de vanguardia. Pianista de formación, el trabajo de Joana Sà se desarrolla en el plano de las ideas y los conceptos; su búsqueda le lleva a investigar las texturas, los ambientes abstractos y las reacciones sensoriales al sonido, más allá de conceptos como forma o armonía. Redoblando ese componente intelectual y teórico tan presente en su trabajo, el nuevo disco de la portuguesa es una parte (la musical) de un proyecto fragmentado y amplio compuesto por diferentes elementos independientes pero relacionados, que incluyen un libro, una instalación virtual y diversas performances de lectura. En palabras de Joana Sá, su nuevo trabajo es una “cartografía resonante de (in)materialidades musicales”, y es de suponer que para abarcar el pleno significado y la intención final de un proyecto así de ambicioso habría que sumergirse en las diferentes dimensiones multidisciplinares que lo forman, pero aquí vamos a centrarnos en su dimensión musical; un disco que lleva por título A Body as Listening, publicado (como no) por el incombustible sello Clean Feed.

A Body as Listening es un trabajo que sumerge al oyente en un mar de quietud y calma, abstracto en todo momento y formado por composiciones que parecen suspendidas en el tiempo, huyendo de estructuras concretas y centradas en una búsqueda constante de lo sensorial.

A Body as Listening suena fantasmal, lejano de lo cerebral y teñido en todo momento por una sensación de libertad y de improvisación libre por terrenos creativos donde las resonancias, las vibraciones y las ambientaciones feéricas toman el protagonismo. No hay elementos disruptivos ni cambios de rumbo a lo largo de los 35 minutos de duración de A Body as Listening; Joana Sá está dotada de una habilidad sutil y precisa para que su música avance de forma orgánica y natural, como una neblina llena de misterio cuya densidad se construye con un número mínimo de elementos, y esa es una de las características más interesantes y envolventes del disco. El vacío, los silencios y el sonido limpio de un piano cristalino de carácter clásico y minimalista conviven con un uso sutil e inteligente de elementos electrónicos centrados en la creación de texturas. En un juego delicado de tensiones continuas, el carácter casi industrial y paisajístico de los ambientes oscuros y extraños creados a partir de la manipulación del sonido se contraponen con la belleza frágil y emocional del piano de la portuguesa, otorgando al disco un matiz experimental que podría llegar a emparentarlo con los ejercicios de investigación ambient de Loscil o incluso a los míticos Disintegration Loops de William Basinski.

La reverberación, la superposición sutil de texturas, el uso puntual de voces de fondo con aires pesadillescos y la elegancia constante del piano convierten este trabajo de Joana Sá en un viaje tan extraño como adictivo, que resulta más enriquecedor con cada nueva escucha. No es música para cualquier momento, y requiere de un estado de ánimo y una predisposición especial por parte del oyente para ser disfrutada de forma profunda, pero desde luego es un ejercicio que vale la pena experimentar.

Texto: Ricky Lavado

Diciembre 28, 2024

Luís Vicente Trio – Come Down Here (Clean Feed)

Luís Vicente Trio – Come Down Here (Clean Feed)

LUÍS VICENTE TRIO

Come Down Here (Clean Feed)

27

Diciembre, 2024

Three years after Chanting In The Name Of, trumpeter Luís Vicente’s trio, featuring Gonçalo Almeida and Pedro Melo Alves, returns with the superb Come Down Here, once again released under the Clean Feed label.

By: António Branco jazz.pt

Titling the result of creative work is rarely free of challenges. Some titles are solemn, verbose, cryptic, even pretentious; others are straightforward and unassuming, referencing a special moment, a time, or a place, sometimes bordering on the ineffable. Trumpeter, composer, and improviser Luís Vicente hit the mark with the name of his latest album, freshly released on Clean Feed: Come Down Here. It’s the second release from a stellar trio that joins him with bassist Gonçalo Almeida and drummer Pedro Melo Alves. We’ve long known that communication and dialogue—with others, oneself, and the surroundings, a crucial element in musical discourse—are central to Vicente’s approach, developed expansively across multiple contexts and instrumental configurations. This “come here” carries significant weight.

“We could say it refers to the ‘vibe’ of the room, the moment we’re playing and feel a presence of something or someone conveying a memory, a feeling, ideally a good one,” Luís Vicente explains to jazz.pt. “It’s as if we’re taken by something that gives us an emotion and guides part of the process.”

Hyperactive both nationally and, especially, internationally, and embracing creative freedom, Luís Vicente occupies a front-row seat in the realm of adventurous jazz and its related improvised music. Beyond leading this trio and a quartet, he’s part of formations like Chamber 4, Frame Trio, Clocks and Clouds, Deux Maisons, Twenty One 4tet, In Layers, and Fail Better!; a quartet with John Dikeman, William Parker, and Hamid Drake (Goes Without Saying, But It’s Got to Be Said is a must-listen); trios with Seppe Gebruers and Onno Govaert or Olie Brice and Mark Sanders; and duos with Vasco Trilla, Marcelo dos Reis (the album (Un)Prepared Pieces for Guitar and Trumpet is worth revisiting), and Jari Marjamaki. Come Down Here arrives at a time when the trio’s other members, Almeida and Melo Alves, also have new releases, both under the Clean Feed label. Almeida’s States of Restraint was recorded in a trio with trumpeter Susana Santos Silva and percussionist Gustavo Costa, while Melo Alves’s Conundrum Vol. 1 is a compilation of duo recordings from a concert series of the same name.

“There’s a genuine, unique spirit within the group, built on trust and friendship that has grown over time,” says Vicente. “Communication flows naturally, and there’s a clear sense of synergy where each other’s movements are anticipated. This depth of creation is something that can only emerge when you’re working with certain individuals, allowing things to unfold and reach extraordinary, even magical, moments.”

Three years after the trio’s debut album Chanting In The Name Of, the new Come Down Here builds on composed and structured ideas drawn from a vast vocabulary amassed through years of experience and refinement. “We’re all improvisers and composers,” Vicente emphasizes. “The compositions are very specific but at the same time extremely open—they’re never played the same way, as it all depends on the day, location, mood, and how we interact with the written material.” This approach, revealing both individual and collective aesthetic growth, maintains the organic, free, and elastic character of their shared musical language. The result is open, pure music, fueled by shared ideas and values without the need for additional elements. A foundational motif is developed in various directions, thanks to the exceptional talent of the three musicians. While Come Down Here retains the style, dynamics, and phrasing of its predecessor, it moves forward. “The idea was for each of us to express ourselves without preconceptions, fully leveraging our abilities and showcasing our individuality, reaching a sonic state where the music itself takes on a central role—a drive where we are merely a conduit connecting to the universe,” Vicente explains. After introducing the composition to his bandmates, the trio develops the potential of each piece, “always keeping the approach open, allowing the music itself to suggest directions and new ways of engaging with its content.”

The album’s title track, which opens the record, begins with a trumpet motif that sparks a vibrant interplay between the three musicians, pushing energy levels to their peak (Melo Alves delivers a remarkable solo here). Hope II then cools the intensity, introducing a chamber-like atmosphere, with Vicente bringing a serene solemnity; Almeida employs the bow, and Melo Alves adds delicate nuances, creating a more abstract piece that explores contrasts reminiscent of certain contemporary classical music styles. A standout track is their rendition of an Afro-Brazilian song by an unknown composer, traditionally played in capoeira circles or Candomblé ceremonies: Mandei Caiar o Meu Sobrado (“I Had My Loft Whitewashed”). This song carries profound gravity (its sounds evoke a dense forest), with the trumpet delivering a clear, hymn-like melody around which the bass and drums orbit. The interaction builds to a climax, culminating in an intense solo by Almeida, complemented by intricate percussion. The double bass briefly returns to the bow to end the piece with an air of mystery.

As the title suggests, Why No Is No is focused and assertive (Vicente describes it as “a manifesto of nonconformity, questioning, non-acceptance, and refusal”), amplifying the intensity of the trio’s interactions with call-and-response exchanges, stimuli, and counter-stimuli. Its whirlwind ending is thought-provoking. The bass sets the tone at the start of Nascente, joined by the trumpet—here in a more textural mode, using extended techniques—and drums that enrich the soundscape. This collective improvisation seems to reflect the flow of a river, tranquil at times, turbulent at others. Closing the album, Penumbra, the longest track and one of its highlights, is a sonic gem richly detailed, demanding repeated listens to fully appreciate its depth. Here, Vicente (also using the mbira) masterfully alternates between melodic ideas and abstract explorations, occasionally performing unaccompanied. Almeida and Melo Alves add density, culminating in another remarkable bass solo that drives the piece to its climax.

At once complex and familiar, Come Down Here is an album that comforts and beckons—a special place to revisit time and time again.

By: António Branco

Diciembre 27, 2024

The Attic & Eve Risser – La Grande Crue

The Attic & Eve Risser – La Grande Crue

THE ATTIC & EVE RISSER

La Grande Crue

20

Diciembre, 2024

The Attic trio, composed of saxophonist Rodrigo Amado, double bassist Gonçalo Almeida, and drummer Onno Govaert, is joined by French pianist Eve Risser for La Grande Crue, a superlative album.

Texto: António Branco jazz.pt

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are moments—and instruments—that change everything. If the saxophone-double bass-drums trio is an institution in the history of jazz, a fertile ground for exploration and freedom, a spark can ignite a process of expanding the spectrum of sonic possibilities and elevating the music to another level. The inclusion of the piano makes “La Grande Crue,” the fourth album by The Attic trio, a necessarily different record from its predecessors, bringing an entirely new dimension to the group’s music in harmonic and melodic terms. Eve Risser, a French pianist and an absolutely essential figure in the creative music of our time, commands a richly nuanced lexicon and exceptional versatility in any context—from solo to orchestra, including trio and quartet.

“The mere fact of incorporating a piano into the equations of improvisation completely changes the kind of energy released by the music, for us and for the listeners,” saxophonist Rodrigo Amado explains to jazz.pt. That was precisely the goal. “We went into the studio without any prior discussion about what we were going to do. The musical communication, as we imagined, was immediate. And Eve’s music acted as a true ‘flood’ of the trio’s music,” he emphasizes. Nothing would ever be the same again, to the point of astonishing the saxophonist himself with how, from then on, he began constructing his own discourse. “I was quite surprised by my language, with a certain harmonic sophistication I had not previously identified in my phrasing.”

This album is also where the group achieves a very particular level of maturity: “I feel this work as our point of maturity, in the sense that we have reached a certain creative coherence and stability, and now we can experiment even more, musically and in organizing alternative formations,” he states. In The Attic trio, the saxophonist—an inescapable name in the most stimulating jazz being made in Portugal and the most internationally recognized national musician in these realms today, constantly in motion—is joined by Gonçalo Almeida, a double bassist and sonic strategist based in the Netherlands, dividing his time among projects like Albatre, The Selva, Ritual Habitual, Spinifex, and Lama, and Dutch drummer Onno Govaert, who also has strong ties to the Portuguese scene through collaborations with Hugo Costa, Luís Vicente, and Marcelo dos Reis. The trio’s self-titled debut in 2017, still with Marco Franco on drums, was an auroral record, yet no less interesting or consistent. It was followed by Summer Bummer in 2019, featuring the current lineup in a live recording at the festival of the same name held in Antwerp, Belgium, and Love Ghosts, recorded in January 2020, just before the pandemic turned our world upside down.

After two magnificent albums—the 2023 debut of The Bridge quartet with Alexander Von Schlippenbach, Ingebrigt Håker Flaten, and Gerry Hemingway in Beyond the Margins, and The Invisible in 2024 alongside Dirk Serries and Andrew Lisle—La Grande Crue, recorded by André Fernandes at Timbuktu studios at the end of July 2023 and mixed by Joaquim Monte and Amado himself, features four improvisations lasting between 10 and 21 minutes, credited to the quartet.

A special mention goes to the wonderful painting by Manuel Amado, the saxophonist’s father and a major figure in 20th-century Portuguese visual arts. The painting is part of A Grande Cheia (The Great Flood), a series of 13 works painted in 1996 and first exhibited at the Calouste Gulbenkian Cultural Center in Paris in 2001. That same year, poet Nuno Júdice wrote a book of poems in dialogue with this series, titled Jogo de Reflexos (Game of Reflections), published in a bilingual edition by Éditions Chandeigne (Paris, 2001). One of these poems, Ângulo (Angle), is reproduced in the liner notes of La Grande Crue:

A reflection of light dies in the summer waters. The algae proliferate in its texture, drinking the window’s last glow. The room encloses me in a white architecture. I breathe a rhythm of drowned sheets. An inner voice announces oval metrics, which I repeat in the monotonous flow of the verse. This light, however, has the structure of melancholy.

The collaboration with the pianist—someone who had long been on the trio’s radar—introduced, as already noted, a myriad of new solutions to the group’s sound, elevating it to a different level. “Eve is an extraordinary pianist,” emphasizes Rodrigo Amado, citing the trio album she recorded with bassist Benjamin Duboc and drummer Edward Perraud, En Corps – Generation (2017), as well as the Red Desert Orchestra’s Eurythmia, released by Portuguese label Clean Feed in 2022. “She can uniquely incorporate completely abstract, purely sonic cells into a more conventional improvisational discourse, but no less interesting for it,” the saxophonist explains. When they learned that Eve Risser would be performing at Jazz em Agosto at the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation, the idea of initiating a collaboration immediately began to take shape. “Gonçalo already knew her reasonably well, and Eve agreed right away.”

The trio’s creative modus operandi remained the same—total improvisation. “We all entered a state of total immersion and maximum concentration,” says Amado, who appears here in a state of grace: powerful yet sensitive, shuffling the deck and dealing again, never imposing himself but always seeking to discover more about himself and his relationships with the musicians he judiciously selects for his groups. Gonçalo Almeida and Onno Govaert are monumental musicians who continuously add ideas and propose new paths in an organic, safety-net-free creative interplay nurtured by long-standing complicity.

In the opening track, Corps, the first sounds come from Almeida’s double bass, which, using the bow, immediately creates a solemn atmosphere; the hyper-delicate drums join in, Risser delves into her instrument’s innermost workings, and Amado plays with clarity and a remarkable sense of space. The piece evolves in a gradual crescendo of intensity, with the four musicians interweaving their lines. There’s a section where the saxophone-double bass-drums trio showcases telepathic interaction; at one point, the piano takes on a pivotal role, with very physical notes, and the intensity levels rise considerably. The saxophonist responds with high-octane sound bursts, which progressively allow silence to seep in, leading to a peaceful conclusion.

Peau brings a somewhat more jazz-like ambiance, largely driven by the way Amado conducts the proceedings—breathing and interactive, proacting and reacting; the piano contributes sparse yet decisive chords, and the rhythm section continues to astonish with its intricate clockwork. Risser once again takes center stage, showcasing her angular pianism. Rodrigo Amado resumes with short phrases, which the pianist contrasts with crystalline notes. The piece ends on a lamenting and unsettling note.

Phrase begins as a tour de force for Risser to thoroughly explore her instrument; the other musicians join in—featuring a superb solo by Govaert—and the meters approach the red. The saxophonist introduces a melodic line to which the piano responds sensitively. The piece takes on a somewhat more chamber-like character, with all four instruments engaging in multilayered games of restraint, respecting spaces yet not hesitating to challenge one another. Double bass and drums once again demonstrate their tight-knit tandem. Amado delivers focused, precise phrasing, skillfully playing with intensity levels. The quartet simmers in different geometries until reaching a climax.

Finally, Pierre begins with a nocturnal and mysterious tone (who is Pierre?). The saxophonist whispers, summoning diverse sounds; Almeida returns to the bow with surprising effects, and Govaert plays with astonishing sensitivity. Risser explores various techniques, bringing a palette of harmonic elements that establish multiple levels of articulation with the other instruments. The saxophonist flares up and exits, leaving the piano-double bass-drums trio to boil over; upon reentering, he delivers a soberly majestic discourse, stretching the energy levels to their limit before everything dissolves into silence.

La Grande Crue has the rare ability to genuinely challenge us, to shift our understanding of what music should be, and to change the way we relate to the other side—the creative side of what we hear. It makes us, on this side, active participants in the creative process. And thus, flooded by beauty, it reconciles us with the world.

Texto: António Branco

Diciembre 20, 2024

Álvaro Torres Quartet – Live in Barcelona (Fresh Sound New Talent)

Álvaro Torres Quartet – Live in Barcelona (Fresh Sound New Talent)

ÁLVARO TORRES QUARTET

Live in Barcelona

06

Diciembre, 2024

Texto: Enrique Turpin

Fotos: Hal Masonberg & Fernando Tribiño

Álvaro Torres (piano), Tony Malaby (saxofón tenor), Masa Kamaguchi (contrabajo) y Kresten Osgood (batería).

Jamboree (Barcelona), 23 de agosto de 2024

Fresh Sound New Talent (2024)

 

LO LOCAL SIN FRONTERAS

Los sueños son como el horizonte. Están ahí para andar hacia ellos. Perseguirlos es el sino del inconformista, aquel para quien el mundo siempre está a un paso de convertirse en algo mejor, más digno y, de paso, cercano al propósito al que aspira el legado del libertario, que no es otro que dejar una pequeña huella de sus pasos por el mundo. La consecución de las aspiraciones de cada cual tiene mucho que ver con el empeño que se le ponga al asunto. Y Álvaro Torres (Madrid, 1993) le ha puesto mucho al suyo, que no era otro que reunirse en un escenario con tres de sus músicos soñados, Tony Malaby, Kresten Osgood y Masa Kamaguchi, tres grandes, digámoslo todo. Huelga señalar los logros personales de cada uno de ellos, pero no habrá que dejar de advertir que los escogidos por Torres para montar su efímero Quartet —cinco conciertos concentrados en agosto de 2023, uno de ellos configura este Live in Barcelona— ya forman parte en vida del panteón que acoge a los mejores entre los excelsos.

Que sea la batería danesa del veterano Kresten Osgood la que abra el set ya es toda una declaración de intenciones, con los tom, las cajas y el bombo haciéndolos bajar a tierra tras un minuto de reloj y empezar a volar con la rítmica del plato hasta que entra el grupo a marcar el camino a seguir, muy cerca de la sensibilidad de Malaby y con la sombra de las construcciones del infravalorado Chris Cheek planeando en “The Good Life”, un tema que viene del anterior largo Heart Is The Most Important Ingredient (Sunnyside, 2022) y se retoma en Iris (Sunnyside, 2024), en el que la escritura del líder genera un optimismo controlado —el coro cuenta una cosa, mientras el desarrollo se aferra más a la realidad sin caer en el cinismo— y donde tienen cabida todas las estrategias sónicas que hacen tan singular el cuarteto. En “Siresimi” siguen bebiendo de las procelosas aguas que brotan de ese manantial inagotable que es el legado de Ornette Coleman, más moderno que nunca, lo mismo que el toque monkiano que trae consigo el piano de Torres, siempre envuelto por la rítmica de Masa Kamaguchi (eficiente e impecable cuando se trata de vestir proyectos indelebles), que se convierte en protagonista en los diez minutos siguientes. “Calabosito” son esos diez minutos, una pieza que improvisa sobre el folclore español (inevitable pensar en Chano Domínguez) y, en particular, con la mirada puesta en algunos cantaores que le son queridos a Torres, quien ha querido rendirles homenaje en esta composición, plena de hondura y tronío como los cantes que la propician. Es otra forma de hacer justicia a sus raíces, sin caer jamás en estúpidos provincianismos que nada aportan y pudieran llegar a sonrojar en el futuro.

Otro modo de reconciliación con el devenir de su aprendizaje lo representa “Echoes”, concomitante con una forma de aproximarse al mundo de la música clásica desde el entorno jazzístico más elegante e impresionista. Sabido es que a los maestros hay que hacerlos bajar del pedestal en el que a menudo suelen auparlos los alumnos aventajados que vieron en ellos un espejo en el que proyectar sus esperanzas, de igual modo que lo hicieron los docentes que tuvieron el poder de prospección para imaginar a sus discípulos en el mejor de los escenarios. Eso fue para Brad Mehldau la figura de Loren Schoenberg y eso mismo ha sido para Álvaro Torres el acompañamiento de su profesora de tantos años Fe del Campo, a quien le dedica el corte. Otros diez minutos en los que el grupo rueda al unísono, bien engrasado para llevar tan pocos conciertos juntos. Tony Malaby, de quien ya sabíamos las dotes melódicas que gastaba —Tamarindo (2007) y Paloma Recio (2009) son momentos de inflexión a este respecto—, hace lo que mejor sabe hacer: lograr que los sobretonos que extrae de su saxo se conviertan en baladas de alto calibre, en las que la intensidad es directamente proporcional a su capacidad inventiva, tanto en las llaves altas como en las bajas. Recupera el legado del primer cuarteto, el que contaba con los brillos de Bill McHenry.

Como el concierto avanzaba de diez en diez, “You Dig?” es la muestra de que cabe mucha música en el cuarteto que lidera Torres, actualmente profesor del Brooklyn Conservatory of Music. Aquí es la improvisación más natural la que se abre paso, haciendo de la pieza un artilugio para que los músicos dejen constancia de su comprensión de la tradición que los ampara y para jugar al corre-que-te-pillo telepático con una sonrisa traviesa escapándoseles a cada uno de ellos. Si quienes asistieron al concierto en el Jamboree barcelonés aquel 25 de agosto, auspiciado por el Festival Mas i Mas, se lo pasaron la mitad de bien de lo que se le intuye al Quartet ya pudieron dar por amortizada la entrada. La composición ya aparecía en formato trío en Iris, como guiño al contrabajista John Hébert, para fundamental del disco que el madrileño ha editado este mismo 2024 con Sunnyside. Como colofón quedaba “Lullaby”, una enorme canción de cuna en la que lo emocional no es óbice para que la fiereza contenida del cuarteto no deje su impronta. Un grupo que con estas credenciales es deseable que tenga continuidad. Lo que ya es imparable es la carrera de Álvaro Torres, toda una sorpresa fraguada a fuego lento de alcance global, como su formación y sus aventuras. Por mucho que lo universal sea lo local sin fronteras, no viene mal alimentarse de nuevos horizontes y osadías a la menor ocasión.

Written by Enrique Turpin

Diciembre 06, 2024

Camila Nebbia, Leo Genovese & Alfred Vogel – Eyes to the Sun (Boomslang Records, 2024)

Camila Nebbia, Leo Genovese & Alfred Vogel – Eyes to the Sun (Boomslang Records, 2024)

CAMILA NEBBIA, LEO GENOVESE & ALFRED VOGEL

Eyes to the Sun (Boomslang Records, 2024)

25

Noviembre, 2024

 Texto: Ricky Lavado

Fotos: Concesión de los artistas

Alfred Vogel no para quieto. El austríaco lleva décadas dinamitando los cimientos del jazz vanguardista más heterodoxo, como batería excepcional y como motor y cerebro de Boomslang Records, sello inclasificable donde los haya y refugio de artistas poco dados a transitar caminos artísticos convencionales. En esta ocasión, su constante actividad colaborativa le ha llevado a sumar fuerzas con la brillante saxofonista, compositora y artista visual bonaerense Camila Nebbia. Los caminos de ambos ya se habían cruzado previamente compartiendo escenario, pero en esta ocasión su más que evidente compenetración artística queda plasmada en una sesión de grabación, completando la aventura con la incorporación de Leo Genovese. El pianista (y en esta ocasión también saxofonista) argentino es un veterano de sobra conocido en el universo del jazz contemporáneo, principalmente por sus colaboraciones con gente como Wayne Shorter, Joe Lovano, Jack DeJohnette o Esperanza Spalding; e incluso ha llegado a grabar, fuera del terreno del jazz, con los mismísimos The Mars Volta.

Si hubiera que establecer algún mínimo común denominador entre Leo Genovese, Camila Nebbia y Alfred Vogel sería quizás el del carácter escurridizo e inclasificable de su concepción de la música improvisada y libre, y Eyes to the Sun da buena cuenta de ello: un disco grabado, mezclado y masterizado en un sólo día en Buenos Aires; sin ensayos previos, sin rumbos trazados ni intenciones claras. El único plan: capturar una sesión de pura improvisación entre tres figuras difíciles de clasificar. El resultado, evidentemente, está a años luz del convencionalismo. Eyes to the sun es una tormenta de música desestructurada, ruidista y fragmentada, con el único objetivo de buscar en todo momento las posibilidades expresivas más extremas de la interacción entre pocos elementos. No hay respiro ni momentos para la calma, los más de cuarenta minutos (divididos en cuatro piezas, la más corta de las cuales supera los ocho minutos) que dura este disco dan forma a una neblina de notas inquietantes, ráfagas percusivas angulosas y furiosas, asonancias constantes y un caos general que roza la cacofonía. Salvo brevísimos momentos en los que la sutileza y el minimalismo le dan un tono más atmosférico o ambiental a la grabación (como en la misteriosa introducción de “Gint”), cada instrumento sigue su propio camino de desorden y estridencia, formando un collage sonoro caótico, arisco, cortante como una cuchilla de afeitar y, en muchos momentos y según esté de ánimo el oyente, exigente hasta el extremo. Conceptualmente, Eyes to the sun podría emparentarse con según qué experimentos de Merzbow, o con las vertientes más rudas de la Música Concreta, mientras que su sonido orgánico y acústico nos remite inevitablemente al free jazz más extremo.

Pese a que que han pasado ya muchas décadas desde que la Música Aleatoria de John Cage o, yendo aún más atrás en el tiempo, el propio Stockhausen, resultara rompedora (lo mismo ocurre con los viajes espaciales de Sun Ra o con las grabaciones seminales de Ornette Coleman o Albert Ayler),  Eyes to the sun no se limita al ejercicio de estilo únicamente; pese a ser un disco en el que prima principalmente la estética, se trata de un trabajo que busca alcanzar una sonoridad concreta y explotarla hasta el extremo, y eso en sí mismo es interesante aunque sólo sea por desubrir cómo de lejos pueden llegar tres mentes tan heterodoxas como las de Nebbia, Genovese y Vogel cuando se ponen a trabajar juntas. Como ejercicio de tensión (y resistencia por parte del oyente), Eyes to the Sun funciona a la perfección.

Texto: Ricky Lavado

Noviembre 25, 2024

Andrés Coll Interview

Andrés Coll Interview

ANDRÉS COLL INTERVIEW

25

November, 2024

Text & Interviewer: José Cabello

Photos: Artist’s concession

It has been an absolute pleasure to chat with one of the rising stars of our country, Andrés Coll. Through his music, his projects, and his talent, he proves to be an artist who embodies innovation and surprise. But it’s not just his musicality that shines; his humility, kindness, and openness to new horizons also stand out. Andrés is already a clear role model for many of us, and we wish him continued growth as beautiful and powerful as what he has achieved since his beginnings. We hope you enjoy the interview, where he shares insights into many fascinating topics: his projects, his influences, his approach to his instrument, his compositional method, and much more.

In&OutJazz: ¿Cómo estás?

Andrés Coll: Nos saludamos en español y luego la entrevista en inglés, ¿te parece?.

Muy bien, muy bien, tío. ¿Estás allí en tu tierra o qué?

Sí, estoy aquí, en mi casa, en Ibiza. Y nada, bien, contento de conocerte. A ver, a ver…

Muy bien, pues es un placer tío, es un placer poder charlar contigo.

Nada, nada.

Tengo ganas, tengo ganas de preguntarte. Como la revista la tenemos planteada…, el enfoque es internacional, por eso, vamos, mejor hacer la entrevista en inglés, para que quede grabado y podamos gozar. Así que nada, tío, si quieres, empezamos.

Venga.

It’s a real pleasure to have you here. And, let me introduce you to everyone who doesn’t know who you are. You are Andrés Coll, born in Ibiza, Spain, and you’ve been…, you’re very young, a very young artist…, 23 right? Is it 23, or 24?

24, a month ago I turned 24.

Nice, nice. I turned out…, I turned 24 a couple weeks ago too so…

Oh!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, same generation man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

21st century going up, that’s cool. So yeah…, so you’ve been collaborating with huge artists such as Joachim Khün, and you’ve put out different projects like Andrés Coll Odyssey, with which you’ve recorded your last record Sunbird which is amazing. Congratulations for that record.

Thank you man.

And then you’ve also collaborated with this project called Ibiza Sun Band. And then, last thing I’ve known is that you’re also enrolled in a project with some cuban artists who I have the pleasure to know too, because they always show up here in Madrid, Carlos Sarduy, Ladrón de Guevara, all these, called Café Dakar. So, we could say…, and I don’t like to…, you know, to put labels to anybody’s art but you…, we could say that your music integrates folk from your homeland with jazz and different musics, world music, and…, so it turns out to be some kind of experimental music, right? So, yeah first of all, after this brief presentation, I’d like to know…, how are you? What are you up to right now? And then we’ll get into deeper questions.

Yeah, well I’m very good these days. I got back to practicing a lot, you know. Last night I was practicing until three in the morning. Most of these days have been like this. Like, you know, because the summer here in Ibiza tends to be very busy, so you don’t have a lot of time to really practice, you know. You can, you know, have some hours of practice to keep up, right? But, to really get into it, you don’t have enough time. And now that the summer is slowly ending and, you know, all this kind of chaos that we have here is slowly ending, I have more time to practice you know. And doing a lot of stuff man.

Are you are you having loads of concerts or not? Are you having like, all your?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a weekly residence with Martin Meléndez, a cello player.

Oh yeah!

That has played with Marco Mezquida trio. He’s in Formentera now, living for the summer and he will come more also, and we are playing a weekly concert in trio with an african percussionist. And apart from this, some, you know, some concerts with Café Dakar and Carlos Sarduy. There are things happening yeah, yeah. But, for me now, I want to practice, I want to…

Yeah man, I’m kind of jealous, I’m kind of jealous because I…, every time I get to practice at least like one hour or 30 minutes I’m just like “oh man, this is cool”. But, yeah, after all, life is getting busy and, you know, every little space you can find to practice, it’s like gold, it’s like a golden treasure.

Yeah.

Yeah, I’d like to ask you how did you get into music, and how does…, how has your evolution turned out through the years in your young career.

Well, I start…, I think music started in my life with…, there was a piano in my house since I was born, because my older sister played piano and saxophone, so there was always an upright piano in my house, and I used to bash on it, you know, when I was three years old. And, you know, maybe compose some little melody and I don’t know just bash around. And then, at seven years old, I was signed into the music school, into the local music school here. And then, there I started percussion, classical percussion, and that’s where you learn drums, you learn marimba, you learn all kinds of percussion. And I started to play in the bands, in the orchestras, and that has come from the school also. And that was my beginning, yeah.

Nice man, I’m gonna try to connect my computer to another wi-fi network, because it’s kind of getting chopped, oh there you go. It should work better now, okay. Sorry, sorry for that. Nice man, nice. And, what do you think about your evolution as a musician? Regarding this, you know, starting process in your house, the piano and then enrolling yourself into the, like institution of music. How has your evolution turned out, till nowadays?

Yeah, so I, you know, I was in the school of music like, maybe for 8, 9 or 10 years and also playing in the symphonic band for 10 years, in the orchestra also, more or less, so this was like my beginning. And I think this was, especially the orchestra, and the band, it’s a super nice foundation for, you know, to getting yourself to know a lot about music, you know, musically cultured. Because you get to know a lot of music involuntarily, like not because you want to know it, but because you have to play it, so this gets you to know a lot of kinds of music styles. And, what I did in the those 10 years, because I didn’t adjust myself to the sheet music, never, so I kind of improvised a little bit, always, when I was in the orchestra, especially in the band, because the orchestra is…, to improvise over Beethoven or something like this is not that easy, but maybe with the band we play some of the easy stuff that you can improvise on, so it was always improvising, you know. I was reading also, but you know, I was creating at the same time. So this is like for 10 years, it’s a great base and for the evolution, that it’s what the question was about, when I met Joachim Khün, I was 10 years you know, like pushing and pushing, but it was like…, it had to blow up, you know. Because it was a lot of energy, there concentrated. And when I met him, all this blew up, you know. The first sessions, we played, I was playing drums and then marimba. It was…, I had never played free jazz in my life before, or jazz or, you know, real music, real jazz. And from those sessions, the first ones…, man, that blew up. And there was a lot of creativity, there was magic, man.

That’s amazing yeah. And, what are your biggest influences regarding both your instrument and your musical concept? Yeah, what’s your musical approach after your influences or your mentors too? I guess Joachim Khün is one of those, but you could tell us more about this.

Well, for the instruments, I think one of the guys I like to listen the most and that I think is great is Bobby Hutcherson…

Nice.

On vibraphone and marimba. I think his approach on emotion on the instrument and the clearness you know, in the notes he’s hitting…, he’s like a bullet man. It’s like… And as for my music the inspirations I have…, maybe in the world of jazz and rock-pop music I would say they are…, Pharaoh Sanders so for the emotion and freedom and power and all this, it’s something I really look up to when I’m playing also the marimba, this power of the saxophone you know. I switch a bit of overdrive in my marimba so I can get…, it’s not really distracting but yes, you have some more punch. And also McCoy Tyner, also for the power, the energy. I think in the artists that I like, I like the power and the energy. I think this is the thing I like the most. McCoy Tyner, also Carlos Santana because since I was a kid I listened a lot to Carlos Santana in my father’s car, he had his records there. And this kind of stuck with me and yeah. It’s something I like.

Yeah, those are great influences man. You cannot be wrong with those influences. What do you think…, I’m just curious about this. In case you know them, what do you think about this young vibe players like Joel Ross, Lewis Wright, Simon Moullier…, what do you think about these guys? Do you know them at all?

Yeah, yeah, I know them. I know Joel Ross. He was here in Ibiza, and we made kind of a lesson you know. It was not a lesson, but we were just you know we were talking about some things and giving some advice and man, that was really helpful for me, because I was just starting on the vibraphone like seriously. And that was really a very nice lesson from him. I got to know very basic concepts. He didn’t say much, but the things he said were incredible. And as a player yeah I like him. When I was starting, for me Joel Ross was a very nice, like inspiration, because when you’re starting something you need to have an inspiration. Not right now, because when you find another inspirations you know, you find another styles and all these things, you kind of grow up with your instrument, with your music, you don’t need an inspiration. But when you’re starting it’s important to have… You know, this guy made it on the vibraphone, on this music so why not me? So, let’s start. And this gives you hope and he’s a nice friend. I like him.

That’s cool. So, what do you play more, marimba or vibraphone, or both in the same, you know, quantity?

No, I play like maybe 90-95% marimba more than vibraphone.

What are your thoughts about both instruments? Like, what are the differences? What are the, I mean, I guess the obvious differences, we all know them, but in terms of interpretation and performance, how do you find yourself, like, in different contexts with each instrument?

Well, I think the vibraphone is more of a jazz instrument, you know, I think it’s more rooted in jazz, and the marimba can be more, can fit more in world music -jazz, but also jazz thing. Which is something which I’m doing. Also, since I play four mallets, the marimba, I think, has a sweeter and, you know, more, it’s a better tone for playing in four mallets. I think, if you play four mallets in vibraphone, you really have to know what you’re doing, because a lot of the voices, it can get very mushy and not…, and all this. Gary Burton did it well, but, you know, it’s something you have to figure out, and for me, the marimba was the thing, because voices are killed in, kind of, in a time of seconds, so, yeah, I think the marimba is the instrument that fit my kind of playing, my music, and my vision of the music well, so, yeah. I think, also, as I play the electric version one, which is MIDI, it’s very different from the acoustic, so I had to, you know, find a new way to play. I think, also, not that also the marimba has a better sound to it, and for the vibraphone, they still haven’t figured out how to put it in there, but, yeah, also, yeah, I think the marimba is the one, the better one for my music.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It’s a nice one. That’s cool. That’s cool. I’m really hoping, looking forward to hearing your live, man. So, going back to the first thing you were saying before, what are you… Oops, I think it got chunked. Can you hear me?

Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

Okay. So, what are the, what aspects, what concepts, what are you practicing right now? What’s your routine? Now that you’re finding more time and space to practice on your own?

It’s interesting to just… So, my practice routine tends to be, you know, I kind of flow around an order sometimes. But, what I’m practicing now for the instruments, is obviously mostly marimba, but some weeks ago, I took drums again, just, you know, play some music. I don’t… you know, I’m not a drummer, I don’t need to be a drummer. So, I’m not focusing on technique and anything like this. But I, you know, just play for fun, the music I like, you know. And this is good for the rhythm. I think it’s good for any player to learn some drums and, you know, keep up the groove and all this. Then I play also piano as a secondary instrument. So, I’m also playing piano. And, for the marimba, what I’m doing for practice, as I said, I have some kind of order, if you want to call it that way, or whatever you want to call it. I make some technique with a really nice book, it’s Thesaurus of Scales and Patterns by Slonimsky. It’s a book that… It’s used by John Coltrane, Frank Zappa and Joachim Khün recommended to me, like, a lot of years ago. So, I went on with it and it’s really helpful. I play those scales and patterns, you know, with all kinds of ways, you know, with both hands, with one hand, with the left hand, alternating with the mallets, playing with chords. It’s also harmonizing the scales, all kinds. And with rhythm, playing on top of a rhythm. I put a track of some desert musicians I have from Morocco and they are keeping up the rhythm and I [sings the rhythm], you know, I think it is good for the rhythm. And then also I play, you know, maybe this goes on for half an hour or… 40 minutes. This, I do a page, one page, and then I go on with some classical for also 30 minutes of classical, 40. What I play the most is, for example, Bartok. I play the Microcosmos.

Oh, yeah.

The Microcosmos books or…, yesterday I was playing some Mozart sonatas and they were very fun to play over. You know, I play with over piano track. I reproduce the piano track and I play the marimba on top, the leading voice, or sometimes also the chords. But it’s nice, like playing a duo, like if you got together with a piano player and you say “let’s play a sonata and you play the first part and he does that too”, it’s fun to do and it’s good, you know, to be in touch with the art of composers. And classical music and several inspirations. For example, Bartok was a huge inspiration for me as he delves into folk from Hungary and Romania and I’m into the folk of Ibiza. There are some things which can be, you know, featured along, so I like to get inspiration from the classical. And then also what I’m doing is play with an album or a live concert recording, one each day. So, this…, maybe I play with a live concert of John Coltrane, or of Pharoah Sanders or wherever. It can be whatever you like, even a concert of The Doors, even a concert of Santana, even whatever you feel like playing. I play, you know, there’s in YouTube a lot of concerts, concerts in this city, and this goes for one hour and a half. You play the whole set, you know, concentrated like a concert. So there’s the bass solo, you sit down, you listen to the bass solo, the drum solo, you listen, maybe you play along with the drum solo, there is no rules, but you play like it was a concert, you know, and it’s a very good exercise. Because if you don’t know the music, you have to, you know, learn the learning in the way, it’s a good exercise for this. And yeah, there are some new ideas each time. So, as I said, I kind of flow. So, every day there are some new ideas. There are no rules, yeah, actually.

Man, that’s super interesting. Thank you for handing out your approach to practice sessions. And I can see in your eyes and in how you express all this stuff that that you’re real, you’re a real artist. As you said, you flow and you like what you do, and you don’t really care about, you know, the laws or the, you know, the different like norms of music and stuff. You just…

Well, yeah, feeling, feeling comes first, I think, you know, if it feels good, if you like it, if…, that’s the first thing, you know.

Amazing. I’d like to…, it has to do with this last question and then I’ll give you the last question of all and that would be it. But do you do you get any time to compose these days? Are you, are you also integrating a little bit of…, a little time into your practice sessions to compose or is that something that just comes and you record some voice memo or you write down the idea or whatever, and you just leave it there until it pops out again?

You know, this summer has been busy, as I said in the beginning, so I really don’t have a lot, a lot of time for composing. But, you know, since I found the time to practice more, I’ve been composing new stuff and things I like. You know, I like composing. It’s super important and I think one should find the time to compose at least one tune every day. It’s something I learned from Joachim because I have a funny story. I will tell right now. About Ornette Coleman and his way of composing. Yeah, I think one should compose one tune every day. It doesn’t have to be short, it can be…, it can be short you know, it can be a little melody, only eight bars, four bars, ten…, well whatever you like. And if it can be about your life, about your experience, your stuff, best. Because then you will be passionate about that composition. It doesn’t have to be, it doesn’t have to feel forced, like “I have to compose” and that’s it. No, it should feel like “yeah, just write this idea and develop it and write something that means for you”. So, yeah I’ve been composing, but I will get into it, you know. And yeah, what I learned from Joachim and what he learned about Ornette, he played with him for years, is that Ornette Coleman, well they played like 17 concerts together, over 10 years and for each concert Ornette Coleman composed 10 new songs and then he didn’t play them again in their life.

Oh, wow!

So, in 10 years he wrote 170 songs, only for these concerts and they are amazing tunes, like they are like standards, you know it’s different from any kind of standard but they are super nice melodies man. And this is what I learned from them, you know, just write.

Yeah, that’s amazing it’s real…, it makes me happy man. You think about all these great guys and also to feel that you’re going through that path too, which yeah makes me proud of my generation too. It’s great, it’s great. So, last question man, I’m really curious about knowing what is the purpose…, what the purpose is behind your artistry, behind your music? Like, is there any purpose any yeah concrete purpose? Or it’s just flowing and feeling? I mean it could be anything, but I was just curious. If you’re searching something, if you’re looking for something, if you’re yeah…, if there’s some depth into it or you know, just what’s the purpose behind your music?

Well as I started playing concerts with my own bands, I realized that with my music I want to…, well if I play a concert obviously, for the people in the public, I want to you know, like show what will inspire them, to see what a person you know, filled with passion and motivation can do, you know. I just want to inspire people to do the thing they like the most and the thing that inspires them as I’m doing, on the stage, in the concert, you know. I’m playing there, you know I’m very into it, and really moving and you know really feeling the music. So, I found that people in the concerts are very inspired by them. And, you know, just inspire joy and good feelings, positive feelings into people. And, yeah. So the way of the music goes is not…, it’s not a very complicated music actually. It’s very rooted in traditional musics from Ibiza, from Morocco…, I’m talking about the Odyssey for example, or my compositions. Is music that is rooted in traditions of Ibiza, Morocco, so the melodies tend to be very very simple, and so are the grooves, very simple. But then the solo gets, you know, different.

Okay!

Then, there’s where the thing happens, right. And, yeah as the music is simple, also it is kind of a message for the people. Like, life should be simple and then you have to flow with it and do what you like, and the solos maybe, if I get complicated in the solo, then life also can get complicated, but then you resolve into simple things you know. I want to also tell human things when I’m soloing, like human experience. That’s I think, one of the reasons I was never into Bebop lines and all this stuff. Because I think the greatest Bebop players are really good but, you know, it’s a way of playing, it’s only a kind of way, it’s okay, but there are more ways to play jazz, or to play music, or to play a solo, than Bebop lines and traditional jazz lines. You can also play, you know, screaming on the instrument, and then play some kind of melody and then, you know, tell human experiences in the instrument. Play life.

Yeah, definitely man that’s…, that’s beautiful. Would you say then that the live context, or playing live is something that casts your music better than the recording process of, you know, being in the studio?

Well I just…, I just released one album and it was even a live concert, so…

Yeah, in Poland, right?

Yeah, yeah. So, in the studio I really have been only one time recording Baldo Martínez album

Oh yeah, I got…, sorry man but I got to interview him…

Yeah!

He was man, he was talking about you so proud and you know, admiring your musicianship and your, you know, the, yeah, your concept and all your artistry. So…

Yeah, he’s a very nice friend. And, yeah I was in the studio with him in Madrid with the group, recording his album. It was the first time I was you know professionally recording an album. And it really changed my mind about how I saw the studio and how is it to record an album, you know. I think it has to be relaxed, you know, you don’t have to move. So, you just have to play music for the people to listen in the CD. So, it’s different from a live concert. It’s very different. So, well I think the live…, obviously is…, live concerts can be interesting because you know, the instrument I play is very visual and even more…, I kind of move a lot in the concerts and I interact a lot with the musicians. For example, with my group Odyssey, Ramón maybe, even sometimes he’s screaming or he’s you know doing some stuff or I give some signals…, so it tends to be very active and visual. For the studio, we’ll have to see when we go to the studio, we’ll see what comes out and what can happen.

Definitely, man. Well man I’m really thankful for having had this opportunity, hearing about you and hearing all your approach to music and your energy and your kindness. So, thank you so much. I hope we get to meet each other again soon in real person, in real life. You’re talking to a passionate drummer, so yeah so it’d be awesome to get to know each other also in a musical context.

Yeah!

And I encourage you to keep going man. It’s amazing to hear about you and to hear your music. I was before the interview, I was listening to your record again and I’m always…, yeah my mind was blown man. Again I was like…, this shit is amazing man, this is…, this is real shit. So, so man keep going. It’s awesome to have people like you and in Spain and our generation and you know pushing the edge and pushing forward. It makes me proud man, really. So, thank you so much for giving us the opportunity of staying with us, in In&Out magazine and In&OutJazz. And, yeah we’ll…, at some time we’ll post some… we’ll put out some posts about you if that’s fine, and…

Yes!

Yeah man we’ll just keep going, and flowing man and enjoying life together.

Oh yeah, thank you. I’m happy to represent this generation and be like, I don’t know maybe someday an inspiration to someone who is young and needs for the start, someone. to see that it’s possible, right? And, just, that it’s possible to go along with music. And, yeah happy to talk with you man. Happy to talk with you.

It’s been a real pleasure man. I send hugs from Spain and…, I mean from Madrid, and keep going with all your practice and all your music man. It’s amazing!

Thank you!

Yeah, we’ll see each other soon, for sure man.

Yes, hopefully, hope so.

Awesome, thank you so much.

Thank you.

Bye, man.

November 25, 2024

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